I apologize for making a change from the normal post on a part of Isaiah, but very recently I have received a comment on one of my blog posts, and I would just like to clarify a few things:
First off, I would like you to understand that I appreciate these comments a lot, and that I appreciate everyone’s point of view on a subject… And I in no way am I attempting to harm anyone when I answer their questions in a post – Here’s the comment in question -:
I’m glad you are so invested in sharing God’s word with others. I’ve been reading a few of your latest posts and had to comment on this one.
“In short; because Jesus took God’s wrath on himself, and in doing so also gave us his spirit, we are protected from God’s wrath – there is none left! – and we are protected from the Devil.” (quote from you)
This is not a fallacy, in itself, but it’s not entirely true because you left something important out. It’s actually not that short of the “once saved, always saved” doctrine, which is false. We’re only protected from the devil and God’s wrath if we obey the call of the gospel by hearing(Romans 10:17), believing(John 8:24; Mark 16:16), repenting(Acts 2:38), confessing Christ(Romans 10:9-10), being baptized(immersed)(Acts 2:38, 8:35-39), and continuing in obedient faith(Romans 12:1-2, James 1:19-27). Revelation clearly tells us that our names can be blotted out of the Book of Life(Rev. 3:5), but if we overcome and keep our robes washed(continue in steadfast obedience), we may enter God’s city(heaven)(Rev. 22:14).
Remember 1 Peter 5:8-9. If simply believing in Christ were enough to keep us safe, God would not have seen it necessary to warn us to resist the devil. The devil is more interested in devouring Christians than the rest of the world because he has already “gotten”, for lack of a better word, the hearts of the ungodly, but we(Christians) are still striving to please God instead of the devil.
So keep spreading the gospel as you can, but spread every side of it because we don’t get justified by God through Christ at no cost on our own part(as tiny as it is in comparison to Jesus giving His life for us).
Thank you for your point of view and the encouragement to keep on spreading the Gospel. However, I would like to point a few things out, first off Isaiah 64:6 – All of us have become like one who is unclean,
and all our righteous acts are like filthy rags;
we all shrivel up like a leaf,
and like the wind our sins sweep us away. – clearly states that it is impossible for us to work our way to heaven. Let me give you two examples:
1. As a pastor once put it; it’s like attempting to row a steam-engine-boat with one paddle against the current. It’s impossible to please God apart from Jesus! … You row as far as you can, and Jesus takes you the rest of the way isn’t going to work.
2. In essence you’re saying that Jesus’ dying for you doesn’t really mean anything… Here’s the example; two people are trying to kill you, some guy sees this happening and tries to stop them at the cost of his own life… What your saying, is that in essence we have to – instead of continuing forward running away – go back and try to beat up the men. It just doesn’t work as seen in romans:
“For all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God” (Romans 3:23).
I believe you also brought up Revelation 3:5:
5′(O)He who overcomes will thus be clothed in (P)white garments; and I will not (Q)erase his name from the book of life, and (R)I will confess his name before My Father and before His angels. (Revelation 3:5)
I can see how you would get their from the “and I will not erase his name from the book of life” section… And therefore from that section we can see that it is possible to be blotted out of the book of life, but the question is now “how does that happen?”. Let’s look at Luke, Mark, and Matthew to answer that question shall we:
“And everyone that says a word against the Son of Man, that will be forgiven; But he that blasphemes against The Holy Spirit will not be forgiven. (Luke 12:10)
“Whoever blasphemes against The Holy Spirit will never have forgiveness, but is guilty of everlasting sin.” (Mark 3:29)
“Therefore I say to you, any sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven men, but blasphemy against the Spirit shall not be forgiven. And whoever shall speak a word against the Son of Man, it shall be forgiven him; but whoever shall speak against the Holy Spirit, it shall not be forgiven him, either in this age, or in the age to come”. (Matthew 12:31-32)
So, by simply not being baptized or “continuing in obedient faith” we won’t be blotted out of the book of life.
As for your argument about; If simply believing in Christ were enough to keep us safe, God would not have seen it necessary to warn us to resist the devil. – I beg to differ. Believing in Christ IS enough to keep us safe, and God simply want’s to prepare us in advance for the hardships and difficulties he will allow the Devil to put upon us.
I would like to point something out now:
By believing in Christ, we have the fruits of the Spirit, I believe you would agree with that… The fruits of the spirit are love, joy, peace, forbearance, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness and self-control. As we can see by looking at Galatians 5:22-23. Jesus gave us the Holy Spirit when he left as seen in John 16:7:
7 Nevertheless I tell you the truth. It is to your advantage that I go away; for if I do not go away, the Helper will not come to you; but if I depart, I will send Him to you.
Therefore we can say that as a direct effect of Jesus dying for us on the cross and rising again for us, we have the Holy Spirit or “helper” in the NKJV. And as a direct effect of our having the Holy Spirit we will do all the things you mentioned such as being baptized, confessing Christ etc… However, our doing those things is not a necessity to our salvation… Once again I honestly do appreciate your point of view, I just don’t agree with it.
So; thank you Mitzi for sharing your concerns with me about my blog post… And as for everyone else, if you happen to have a concern as well, please feel very free to comment.
You are loved!