God and His Effect On Plants

21 Apr

Hello again!

This is what God has given me today in his word:

For you have forgotten the God of your salvation and have not remembered the Rock of your refuge; therefore, though you plant pleasant plants and sow the vine-branch of a stranger, though you make them grow on the day that you plant them, and make them blossom in the morning that you sow, yet the harvest will flee away in a day of grief and incurable pain. (Isa 17:10-11)

I think these verses are mainly talking to counselors and mentors… Why? Look at the part of the verses above – though you make them grow on the day that you plant them, and make them blossom in the morning that you sow, yet the harvest will flee away in a day of grief and incurable pain. – Because, you can play all the soft music and dim the lights all you want; and you’ll get people becoming “Christians”… But the moment something difficult comes Bam! They’re out of here. And why is it you have to play that soft music and dim the lights (to make it emotional)? It’s because when you have to do all that; you aren’t concentrating on making God your vision! Don’t you remember the song “be thou our vision”?

Be Thou my Vision, O Lord of my heart;
Naught be all else to me, save that Thou art
Thou my best Thought, by day or by night,
Waking or sleeping, Thy presence my light.

Be Thou my Wisdom, and Thou my true Word;
I ever with Thee and Thou with me, Lord;
Thou my great Father, I Thy true son;
Thou in me dwelling, and I with Thee one.

Notice how it doesn’t say “be thou my soft music and dimmed lights”. Notice how it also doesn’t say “be thou my God who works on the emotions of people trying to get them to become Christians”… It’s true you will get “converts” when you do that… –  and make them blossom in the morning that you sow – But they don’t stay Christians for long. Again I ask why don’t they stay Christians for long? Because they are emotional Christians! … You’ve played on their emotions and more or less forced them through their emotions to become Christians. But the moment something (anything) bad happens in their life, can you guess what happens? Bam! They’re gone. In fact not only are they gone, but they’re out right fleeing from you! – yet the harvest will flee away in a day of grief and incurable pain. – So if you are a pastor, mentor, or counselor of any sort. Please don’t fall into the trap of forgetting God and therefore leading everyone you talk to astray! It usually doesn’t turn out good for anyone.

You are loved!

Joshua Cleveland


Posted by on April 21, 2011 in Uncategorized


4 responses to “God and His Effect On Plants

  1. christadelphians

    June 28, 2011 at 1:47 AM

    Dear Joshua, the Holy Spirit is Gods Power. It is the manner in which God, who is Spirit, can do something. so when God created everything it was by His Spirit that everything got breath in it. But that Spirit was not an other person. The Holy Spirit is the thinking and handling of God.

    • Joshua Cleveland

      June 28, 2011 at 1:28 PM

      Dear Christadelphians,

      There is never a distinction in the Bible between Christ, the Holy Spirit, and God the Father that I have found so far. Though if you have found a place that makes such a distinction in the Bible, please feel free to share it.

  2. christadelphians

    June 27, 2011 at 11:39 AM

    Hallo Joshua, very nice post. You rightly warn for preachers not to fall in the trap to bring an emotional evangelism, forgetting to place God on the first place. Often first the “joy de vivre” or the entertainment side is take as the priority to have a nice enjoyable service. Then they talk about Christ and only occasionally they talk about God or worse mostly they mistake God to be Jesus, while Jesus is and was the son of God and not god the son (a big difference). We always have to be sure to talk about the right person and to praise the only One God, Jehovah/Yahweh.
    We do hope you shall be able to explore His Words and to find the truth and wish you lots of success continuing spreading the message of Jesus Christ, our Messiah.

    • Joshua Cleveland

      June 27, 2011 at 9:02 PM

      Dear Christadelphians,

      Thank you for your encouragement, but in your comment you also mentioned how pastors may mistake Christ as being God. If that’s a mistake, it’s one a make often;

      1 In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. 2 Now the earth was formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the waters.
      3 And God said, “Let there be light,” and there was light

      I’m sorry, but in here I see no distinction between the Holy Spirit and God. Perhaps you could point me to a scripture that makes a distinction? Thank you.

      — Joshua


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