Fire and Water; Is the Christian Immune to Both?

31 May

Hello again!

This is what God gave me today in his word:

But now thus says the LORD, he who created you, O Jacob, he who formed you, O Israel: “Fear not, for I have redeemed you; I have called you by name, you are mine. When you pass through the waters, I will be with you; and through the rivers, they shall not overwhelm you; when you walk through fire you shall not be burned, and the flame shall not consume you. (Isa 43:1-2)

I for one didn’t know I wouldn’t be burned if I walked through fire! I’ll have to try it!

6 And the angels who did not keep their positions of authority but abandoned their proper dwelling—these he has kept in darkness, bound with everlasting chains for judgment on the great Day. 7 In a similar way, Sodom and Gomorrah and the surrounding towns gave themselves up to sexual immorality and perversion. They serve as an example of those who suffer the punishment of eternal fire. (Jude 1:6-7)

So you’re suggesting that the fire referred to is just representative of Hell? That’s a little disappointing… But at the same time I’m glad that it means hell and not actual fire, I’d prefer burning over burning. But what about the water/rivers part?

9 Joshua said to the Israelites, “Come here and listen to the words of the LORD your God. 10 This is how you will know that the living God is among you and that he will certainly drive out before you the Canaanites, Hittites, Hivites, Perizzites, Girgashites, Amorites and Jebusites. 11 See, the ark of the covenant of the Lord of all the earth will go into the Jordan ahead of you. 12 Now then, choose twelve men from the tribes of Israel, one from each tribe. 13 And as soon as the priests who carry the ark of the LORD—the Lord of all the earth—set foot in the Jordan, its waters flowing downstream will be cut off and stand up in a heap.” (Joshua 3:9-13)

So what you’re saying is that the waters and rivers that God says he’ll walk us through in the verse could represent God’s testing us or something to that extent? Well yes that makes sense when I think about it. But what does God’s walking me through the very tests that he gives me matter to me? 

“I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing” (John 15:5)

Oh, so in other words I need Christ living in me in order to bear any Christian fruit? Well I suppose that does matter to me, seeing as without Jesus to walk me through any tests that he gives me, – such as a test of my faith in him – I couldn’t “pass the tests”… But can you tell me exactly what sort of tests God would give me?

1 Some time later God tested Abraham. He said to him, “Abraham!”

   “Here I am,” he replied.

 2 Then God said, “Take your son, your only son, whom you love—Isaac—and go to the region of Moriah. Sacrifice him there as a burnt offering on a mountain I will show you.” (Genesis 22:1-2)

But God couldn’t possible expect me or anyone else to do something so incredibly drastic! Could he?

But God demonstrates his own love for us in this: While we were still sinners, Christ died for us. (Romans 5:8)

That doesn’t make sense, you didn’t answer my question. What are you saying?

16(A) “Fathers shall not be put to death because of their children, nor shall children be put to death because of their fathers. Each one shall be put to death for his own sin. (Deuteronomy 24:16)

But God demonstrates his own love for us in this: While we were still sinners, Christ died for us. (Romans 5:8)

Let me get this straight; you’re telling me that because Jesus died for me while I was still a sinner, I don’t have to do that sort of thing anymore? Well that would mean that God doesn’t test me anymore, and I know that’s not true.

Job 1-19

OK, point taken. So overall what you’ve told me is that because Jesus died and rose again for me I am saved. But God will still test me, a little like he tested Job’s faith, but even in that God will help me.

You are loved!

Joshua Cleveland




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