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Transquotation: Genesis 35:1-2

11 Jan

Hello again!

This is what God gave me today in His word:

Verses:

God said to Jacob, “Arise, go up to Bethel and dwell there. Make an altar there to the God who appeared to you when you fled from your brother Esau.” So Jacob said to his household and to all who were with him, “Put away the foreign gods that are among you and purify yourselves and change your garments. (Genesis 35:1-2)

Transquotation:

We are allowed into the House of God because of the sacrifice made for us; because of Jesus’ death for us. And now God, while we are still on the Earth, sanctifies us.

Explanation of the transquote:

Because of a sacrifice Jacob was supposed to make, they (Jacob and crew) were to go to Bethel; meaning “House of God.” It’s true, granted, that they were supposed to go to the House of God to offer the sacrifice (as compared to us, who are only going to the Heaven/the House of God because Jesus has already died for us) there is a similarity between the two.

Next, Jacob ordered everyone to get rid of their gods. Or, in other words: after they learned of the sacrifice, they were to get rid of all their false gods. Yes, again, in their case the “learned of it” meant they were to go and offer the sacrifice, as compared to us who are purified because of the sacrifice, there is once again a similarity.

New testament confirmation:

 14 Therefore, since we have a great high priest who has ascended into heaven,[f] Jesus the Son of God, let us hold firmly to the faith we profess. 15 For we do not have a high priest who is unable to empathize with our weaknesses, but we have one who has been tempted in every way, just as we are—yet he did not sin. 16 Let us then approach God’s throne of grace with confidence, so that we may receive mercy and find grace to help us in our time of need. (Hebrews 4:14-16)

Context confirmation:

Then let us arise and go up to Bethel, so that I may make there an altar to the God who answers me in the day of my distress and has been with me wherever I have gone.” So they gave to Jacob all the foreign gods that they had, and the rings that were in their ears. Jacob hid them under the terebinth tree that was near Shechem. (Genesis 35:3-4)

As already said, purification comes through the knowing of the sacrifice. — This supports the transquote by strengthening the connection between the two sacrifices; the one Jacob and crew were to offer here, and Jesus’ ultimate sacrifice of Himself.

You are Loved!

Joshua Cleveland

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9 responses to “Transquotation: Genesis 35:1-2

  1. Freedomborn

    January 12, 2012 at 11:53 PM

    Sorry Joshua I’m not going to argue with you because as much as you or anyone else tries you can’t make Scripture read what you want it to, or leave out what you can’t understand or don’t want to accept , your reasoning Logic and understanding are wrong as many others are, we do not continue to sin till we die this belief is why there is so much confusion and sin in the Churches as I said if you want to reason in private we will do so later or you can contact me on my private e-mail address it is noted in my About on my Blog what you and many others are doing is only teaching half the Gospel and sadly your not even aware of it.

    Yes Salvation is a free gift but we will show we have it in our lives!

    1John 3:4-10 Everyone who sins breaks the law; in fact, sin is lawlessness. But you know that He appeared so that He might take away our sins. And in Him is no sin. No one who lives in Him keeps on sinning. No one who continues to sin has either seen Him or known Him. Dear children, do not let anyone lead you astray. He who does what is right is righteous, just as He is righteous. He who does what is sinful is of the devil, because the devil has been sinning from the beginning. The reason the Son of God appeared was to destroy the devil’s work. No one who is born of God will continue to sin, because God’s seed remains in him; he cannot go on sinning, because he has been born of God. This is how we know who the Children of God are and who the children of the devil are: Anyone who does not do what is right is not a child of God; nor is anyone who does not Love his brother.

    Romans 6:17-19 But God be thanked, that ye were the servants of sin, but ye have obeyed from the heart that form of doctrine which was delivered you. Being then made free from sin, ye became the servants of righteousness

    Hebrews 6:1 Therefore leaving the principles of the doctrine of Christ, let us go on unto perfection; not laying again the foundation of repentance from dead works, and of faith toward God,

    1Peter 5:10 But the God of all grace, who hath called us unto His eternal glory by Christ Jesus, after that ye have suffered a while, make you perfect, stablish, strengthen, settle you.

    And there are many more Scriptures that confirm Freedom in Christ Jesus.

    Take care Joshua hope to hear from you – Christian Love Anne

     
    • Joshua Cleveland

      January 13, 2012 at 12:01 PM

      I’m sorry, but it seems you’re claiming to be perfect. Is this true or not? Please feel free to email me at joshua@ncwcom.com

      We do show outward signs of our faith, I believe that wholeheartedly. However, no matter who attempts to do so, Scripture cannot be twisted to read that this means all true Christians live every moment of everyday perfectly. Surely you must confess to some times having even a slight hint of anger, or perhaps of pride, or any number of things that plague true Christians. Though we do indeed show signs outwardly; in what we do and say, we can never be perfect. In order to be perfect would mean we didn’t need Jesus!

      In the verse you quoted (I’m referring to 1 John 3:4-10), John proved my point exactly:

      Everyone who makes a practice of sinning
      also practices lawlessness; sin is lawlessness. You know that he appeared to take away sins, and in him there is no sin. No one who abides in him keeps on sinning; no one who keeps on sinning has either seen him or known him. Little children, let no one deceive you. Whoever practices righteousness is righteous, as he is righteous. Whoever makes a practice of sinning

      is of the devil, for the devil has been sinning from the beginning. The reason the Son of God appeared was to destroy the works of the devil. No one born of God makes a practice of sinning
      , for God’s seed abides in him, and he cannot keep on sinning because he has been born of God. By this it is evident who are the children of God, and who are the children of the devil: whoever does not practice righteousness is not of God, nor is the one who does not love his brother.
      (1 John 3:4-10)

      John is talking about habitual sin, not sin in of itself! Whoever “practices sin,” as in, someone who does it over and over and cannot overcome. That person isn’t a child of God. However, one who, though He falls, rises up again by the power of the Holy Spirit, that person is a true child of God!

      Please don’t fall into the trap of legalism; of thinking that must do anything to gain salvation or to prove somehow that we are ‘true Christians.’ If we in fact Christians “all these things will be added unto us.” We, of course, have to put effort in as well to break bonds of sin, etc. yet it’s by Jesus’ power that we can break free of anything! Again, to quote the verses you quoted:

      But thanks be to God, that you who were once slaves of sin have become obedient from the heart to the standard of teaching to which you were committed, and, having been set free from sin, have become slaves of righteousness. I am speaking in human terms, because of your natural limitations. For just as you once presented your members as slaves to impurity and to lawlessness leading to more lawlessness, so now present your members as slaves to righteousness
      leading to sanctification.
      (Romans 6:17-19)

      Paul’s talking about being a slave to sin, not sin itself. We are freed from being “slaves to sin” but we’re still on the road to sanctification. And we will only be truly sanctified after our bodies die and we go to Heaven. And again in 1 Peter:

      And after you have suffered a little while, the God of all grace, who has called you to his eternal glory in Christ, will himself restore, confirm, strengthen, and establish you. (1 Peter 5:10)

      “after you’ve suffered a little while,” Paul’s referring here to there death when he says “after you’ve suffered a little while,” this can be proven by looking at the verses before it:

      Be sober-minded; be watchful. Your adversary the devil prowls around like a roaring lion, seeking someone to devour. Resist him, firm in your faith, knowing that the same kinds of suffering are being experienced by your brotherhood throughout the world. (1 Peter 5:8-9)

      The only time we can be done suffering at the hand of Satan is once we die! And there are many more Scriptures confirming this, which I will share with you if you like.

      Legalism is a trap of Satan, designed to make you try to work for your salvation, I pray that everyone will come to realize that.

      Thank you,

      Joshua

       
  2. Freedomborn

    January 11, 2012 at 9:08 PM

    Hi Joshua, this verse you quoted Hebrews 4:14-16 is very True, our past sins are forgiven that is the free gift of Salvation and like all Scripture it is to be read in context and taken as a whole Picture …it is cross referenced with….

    1 John 2 :1 -2 My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an Advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous: And He is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.

    When we read these verses in context we see the whole picture…

    1 John 2: 3 – 6 And hereby we do know that we know Him, if we keep His commandments. He that saith, I know Him, and keepeth not His commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him. But whoso keepeth His word, in him verily is the Love of God perfected: hereby know we that we are in Him. He that saith he abideth in Him ought himself also so to walk, even as He walked.

    There are many Scriptures that confirm this Truth another one is ….

    Romans 8:1There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.

    As you can see when we have Salvation we show it in Actions not just words, how do we receive Salvation we have heart repentance which shows we believe in Jesus as our Saviour and that we are forgiven and set free from the Slavery of sin.1 John 3: 1-11

    John 8:34-36 Jesus replied, “I tell you the truth, everyone who sins is a slave to sin. Now a slave has no permanent place in the Family, but a son belongs to it forever. So if the Son sets you free, you will be free indeed.

    Thanks again Joshua you are a Blessing, I’m praying for you, your focus is great because it is about the Love you have for Jesus Christ and what you say is very True.. He Loves us too and more then we believe is possible.

    Christian Love Anne.

     
    • Joshua Cleveland

      January 12, 2012 at 4:26 PM

      I’m sorry, but for the sake of clarity, are you saying that once someone becomes a Christian, they have to live a perfect life or, in reality, they were never a Christian/will lose their salvation? I’m sorry for not simply answering your comment, but I’d like to set that straight real quick.

      Thank you,

      Joshua

       
      • Freedomborn

        January 12, 2012 at 6:49 PM

        Hi Joshua, it is not important what I think but it is what the Scriptures tell us, or your Blog and all the Scripture you share would mean nothing…. Salvation is a free gift which we accept by heart repentance which shows we believe in Jesus Christ. God chose us to be conformed into the image of His Son before we were Born knowing we would come to heart repentance and turn from evil and do good by the empowering of The Holy Spirit Romans 8:28-30 and by putting our flesh to death by The Spirit Romans 8: 5- 17 we are Born again of God’s seed 1 John 3 :9 and perfected in Love – 1John 4:17-19 & Matthew 5:48

        Romans 6:11 Likewise reckon ye also yourselves to be dead indeed unto sin, but alive unto God through Jesus Christ our Lord.

        Romans 6:6- 7 For we know that our old self was crucified with Him so that the body of sin might be done away with, that we should no longer be slaves to sin— because anyone who has died has been freed from sin.

        Romans 6:17-19 But thanks be to God that, though you used to be slaves to sin, you wholeheartedly obeyed the form of teaching to which you were entrusted. You have been set free from sin and have become slaves to righteousness. I put this in human terms because you are weak in your natural selves. Just as you used to offer the parts of your body in slavery to impurity and to ever-increasing wickedness, so now offer them in slavery to righteousness leading to holiness.

        Philippians 2:14-15 Do everything without complaining or arguing, so that you may become blameless and pure, children of God without fault in a crooked and depraved generation, in which you shine like stars in the universe..

        2 Corinthians 1: 21-22 Now it is God who makes both us and you stand firm in Christ. He anointed us, set His seal of ownership on us, and put His Spirit in our hearts as a deposit, guaranteeing what is to come.

        1 Thessalonians 5:23-24 May God Himself, the God of Peace, sanctify you through and through. May your whole spirit, soul and body be kept blameless at the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ. The One who calls you is faithful and He will do it.

        Josh there are many other Scriptures that talk about Freedom in Christ Jesus and how to walk in it but to understand God’s Truth we need The Holy Spirit 2 Corinthians, God’s wisdom is not the same as the worlds or is His perfection… the link below will help you to understand better but you also need to talk to your Minister or someone in Authority over you and your always welcome to ask me if there are others Scriptures that you are not sure about.

        Blog Post – http://freedomborn.wordpress.com/2011/10/10/the-gaining-of-wisdom/#comment-561

        Christian Love Anne.

         
      • Joshua Cleveland

        January 12, 2012 at 7:34 PM

        What I meant by my last comment was: what point are you drawing out of those scriptures? I phrased it wrongly, so I apologize.

        I agree completely that we must live out our faith by our actions. I also believe, though, that though salvation is an instant process, sanctification may take awhile. This is supported by the same verse you attempted to cross-reference and which I quoted:

        because by one sacrifice he has made perfect forever those who are being made holy. (Hebrews 10:14)

        We are saved instantly when we accept Jesus, but being sanctified takes time and effort. I truly hope you aren’t suggesting that when a Christian is saved they become perfect instantly, as that would mean no one was ever or could ever be a true Christian because, no matter how much we don’t like admitting it because of our pride, we all still sin and fall short of the glory of God. It’s true we must live out our faith by our actions, but when we fall we still have grace; we still are given mercy by God:

        1 My dear children, I write this to you so that you will not sin. But if anybody does sin, we have an advocate with the Father—Jesus Christ, the Righteous One. 2 He is the atoning sacrifice for our sins, and not only for ours but also for the sins of the whole world. (1 John 2:1-2)

        Yes, we are set free from sin now; we will never have any habitual sin. See, what people don’t do, is they don’t realize what it means that they’re set free from sin. It means that, though we still sin, we are set free from ever continually (habitually) sinning and not being able to break the bonds of the sin that ensnares us. Clearly this in no way or form means that we can now sin freely because, after all, ‘we have grace and will thus be forgiven!’ Paul says it perfectly:

        20 The law was brought in so that the trespass might increase. But where sin increased, grace increased all the more, 21 so that, just as sin reigned in death, so also grace might reign through righteousness to bring eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.

        1 What shall we say, then? Shall we go on sinning so that grace may increase? 2 By no means! We are those who have died to sin; how can we live in it any longer? 3 Or don’t you know that all of us who were baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into his death? 4 We were therefore buried with him through baptism into death in order that, just as Christ was raised from the dead through the glory of the Father, we too may live a new life. (Romans 5:20-21 – 6:1-4)

        Paul says, “we too may live a new life.” And we do, a life free from any form of habitual bondage. Everything that you said/quoted is completely true, and I’m not saying there’s any sort of contradiction in the Bible. What I’m saying is that we have to view such verses in context with the rest of the Bible. Paul says again and again that we no longer live under the law:

        14 For (A)sin (B)will have no dominion over you, since you are not under law but under grace. (Romans 6:14)

        Now before faith came, we were held captive under the law, imprisoned until the coming faith would be revealed. So then, the law was our guardian until Christ came, in order that we might be justified by faith. But now that faith has come, we are no longer under a guardian, for in Christ Jesus you are all sons of God, through faith. (Galatians 3:23-26)

        It’s true we really must live our faith by our actions, however, if and when we do fall; when we do sin, we have an advocate in Heaven waiting to intercede on our behalves. However, to say that now that we are Christians, we must live perfectly would completely discount grace! In fact, to say you are a Christian while attempting to somehow continue under rules so that you can ‘remain a Christian’ is a complete contradiction.

        Yes we must live our faith, there can never be any sort of doubt on that subject, but we also must understand what it means to live out our faith. It doesn’t mean we have to keep the ten commandments, or any commandments except those that are given us in the New Testament; and obeying those ‘commandments’ is something we as Christians should long and strive to do, but it isn’t a measure of whether or not we’re saved!

        I’m not sure if you’re saying any of that, but from what I gather it seems like it. Could you possibly elaborate on what you mean?

        Thank you,

        Joshua

         
      • Freedomborn

        January 12, 2012 at 8:46 PM

        Hi Joshua, I’m sorry your confused, I too was very confused until Jesus showed me the Truth about Freedom in Him, so perhaps if we stay with Scripture and not Trust in what we think or others have taught us it would help, we can’t just disregard Scripture because it doesn’t suite us or agree with our agenda.

        Of course it takes time to put our flesh nature to death and be perfected in Love and until we are we are indeed under Grace much the same as The Old Testament Saints who had the hope but not the reality, that is why they sacrificed animals, we are covered by Christs blood untill we have been made spotless and pure and conformed into the image of Jesus. Paul also tells us we have to put our childish understanding behind us and Aim for Perfection in Christ Jesus, and about the battle we will have if we don’t do this in Romans 7 but then explains in Romans 6 & 8 how we can have the victory. We don’t strive, in Christ Jesus we have freedom, we have been set free from the slavery of sin.

        I’m in the process of putting a Blog together that will answer in privacy the problems others are having both with Scripture and personally. I will share about my Journey and how I discovered the Truth of how to walk in Freedom in Christ Jesus , it’s a bit long for comment boxes, too much wordage, so till then just focus on the Scriptures and not on worldly understanding. You are greatly Loved Joshua and God does not stop Loving us, but are we willing to start Loving Him, instead of claiming we know it all in the flesh.

        Christian Love Anne.

         
      • Joshua Cleveland

        January 12, 2012 at 11:24 PM

        I’m sorry you seem to think I’m confused, still living the flesh and am disregarding Scripture (I believe I pointed to several passages to prove my point?), and sadly I can’t change your opinion about me. But back to the point at hand:

        “Of course it takes time to put our flesh nature to death and be perfected in Love and until we are we are indeed under Grace much the same as The Old Testament Saints who had the hope but not the reality, that is why they sacrificed animals, we are covered by Christs blood untill we have been made spotless and pure and conformed into the image of Jesus.”

        Exactly, in this it seems we both agree. We are covered by Jesus’ blood until we put our flesh to death, that is, sadly, only going to happen once we die and are finally rid of the flesh forever:

        1 For we know that if the earthly tent we live in is destroyed, we have a building from God, an eternal house in heaven, not built by human hands. 2 Meanwhile we groan, longing to be clothed instead with our heavenly dwelling, 3 because when we are clothed, we will not be found naked. 4 For while we are in this tent, we groan and are burdened, because we do not wish to be unclothed but to be clothed instead with our heavenly dwelling, so that what is mortal may be swallowed up by life. 5 Now the one who has fashioned us for this very purpose is God, who has given us the Spirit as a deposit, guaranteeing what is to come.

        6 Therefore we are always confident and know that as long as we are at home in the body we are away from the Lord. 7 For we live by faith, not by sight. 8 We are confident, I say, and would prefer to be away from the body and at home with the Lord. (2 Corinthians 5:1-7)

        The path of legalism is very tempting because it appeals to our sense of ‘doing something,’ but the reality is simply that we cannot become perfect while alive, no matter how hard we try to ‘do something.’

        Thank you,

        Joshua

         

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